Contract Breeder

should make something like a rare super size trait that gives bigger boobs or bigger junk for them.

Do we have a genetic for futa?

Can you add kobolds or scalies

Why is the zip file on android and not .APK?

Completely random, and more of a "it doesn't matter if it doesn't end up happening, but if it does i won't complain about it"

So, futa content, yep or nop?

Android needs a .APK file, not a .zip

It said invalid upload on Android :c

Game crashes at when you try to type the farm name on android. Unplayable at this moment

mpreg update when???? 👀👀👀👀

it says that undressing is patreon only, is there a list of other patreon only content or is that it?

Having played for a good hour, I think the loop is solid but the big thing missing (that doesn't seem to be planned) is a way for you to upgrade your own genetics somehow. Without that you quickly get studs with important stats/traits that you lose out on if you breed someone yourself.

Hi ! Been loving the game so far! I've been wondering though, is it possible for a character to have two blessing traits at the same time ? Thanks and keep up the good work!

Just played through the demo and got to day 200, so I think it's fair to say I find this interesting and generally like the gameplay loop. That said, I also still have my gripes. Fair warning, I'm going to say a lot, but it's cause I care.


Firstly, I think something should be done with how supply/demand works. Honestly, I'm not 100% sure what, but as it is now, it's surprisingly easy to get yourself into an early death spiral. You can only work with humans and need a fair bit to pay the monthly fee, pay the license fee, and pay for the beastfolk. So you're kinda stuck with humans. But each you sell lowers the value more and more.  This should push you to sell higher value instead of quantity, but you don't really get much choice. Not just because of them randomly not getting better, but also because you're limited with space. You can't experiment to get the best humans without running out that space. So you're outright forced to sell no matter what you do... which lowers the value of them more. I hope I've described the problem clear enough. 

But as I said, I'm not actually sure what you should do with that. Maybe have a minimum sell value? Maybe have the markets not get so affected by just your tiny, starting out place? Maybe allow the player to affect the market in some way beyond just... waiting days to let it go up? Special chance effects on the market any given day? Guaranteed ones at the start of the game? At the least, I'm not sure the market should be affected at every press of the sell button (at least for humans), cause you kinda have to find your highest value, but most sellable before going down the line since they'd lose the most value.


Secondly, I'd like a few more options when  it comes to sorting. Mainly, a way to lock a character in place so they aren't affected by the sort function nor can they be accidentally moved AND some way to mark "undesirables", almost like an opposite to faves so you know who you want to sell. (And they should go the bottom if you sort.) It'd also be nice if that sort function could order faves of a species at the top of their specific species. So like, even a super valuable beastfolk can't get between Elves, nor will a theoretically more valuable one get above your fave (because you're looking to breed those traits of the fave, that the more valued one doesn't have.) Or the options to pick between options of "overall" and "species specific". Also, different tiers of faves would be nice. Like "This is a tier 1 Fave, this is Tier 2." Just nice for sorting reasons. 1's above 2's, even if the values would have them otherwise. 


Thirdly, there's kind of a big gap between men and women here. While I know that's inherent to the subject matter here, and I also know you do *kinda* address this with Elves having males who can only go once per two days (which is a cute idea I like and I hope other species have "weirder" things going on), but that only happens like... 3-ish hours in. Before that, you pretty much need to only find the best male and "cull" all the others. (Or at least ignore them for contract purposes.) Meanwhile, because of both the time it takes women to go through and recoup, and that they have a limited number of times they can do the deed, you'll be switching and going through them pretty regularly.

So here's an idea that came to mind because of the trait Forager. What if... you could send men out to do labor (or some other tasks). Their proficiency is based on their stats (like maybe how long they stay injured, or how many injuries they can take based on Vigor.) They can also have traits specific to men for these tasks (so it's not just women who get women-only traits.) I think it would give far more reason to have plenty of men, while still needing plenty of women as well. Perhaps a bit sexist, but there's a lot of questionable things going on anyway, lol. Regardless, there's a lot you could do with this idea, more then I've expressed already.


Fourthly,  I think I'd like more options on what you can do at any given point. Like perhaps a consumables shop for temporary buffs to specific individuals. You know, like something to ease their tiredness, or make mating more successful, or make pregnancies go faster, or make traits have a higher chance of continuing. Maybe add stats... maybe allow "limit breakers" as consumables to go beyond 100. For all of these, not for everyone at the same time (unless it's some late game consumables), just for individuals. If it still seems too strong, maybe characters can build resistances to those buffing consumables, making them less and less effective. (Like... a chance to not work, building up until it outright won't work anymore no matter how many you use.) And maybe some, or all consumables, are actually species specific. So an elf can't get affected by a drug for beastfolk. (Heh... like... catnip.) Just some ideas.You could mix and match or not do any of this. 

On a semi-related note... I kinda wonder if our character should get special effects/upgrades. You do make it a point you can breed them yourself. Even have a stamina meter for you. You even allow us to breed any race, despite that apparently not working otherwise. I don't know if we have stats or traits or anything, but that could all be stuff you let us alter to have more of an affect on the farm. Maybe even let inspections do something. (More than just for "fun"). Like... maybe you can rarely find a secret mark on characters, find out a character was wrongly evaluated and should have higher stats, or find some money/items they have hidden. Or maybe just playing with them enough gets them in a mood that makes them better at breeding. Also-also, it's not even my thing, but it is a bit silly you can't inspect the men. Could make a toggleable option to see or not, if you do put effects on for inspecting.

On a semi-related note to my semi-related note... why *isn't* there cross breeding between species? I'm not even saying to change the fact that most will only get with another of their kind. Let the "Freaky" trait do more than be a thing for implicative contracts. Make it like a really low chance, depending on who's involved. Maybe even make it a big deal that your the one to bring cross breeds around. Could even add to the reasons why your character would breed with all of them. Something special about you that matches to their species, but can potentially make a cross. Granted, I do foresee it may be quite some work to account for however many crosses you'd want to account for if you did this, but I do think it'd add to the experience.

  
Fifthly, is there a limit to traits, and is it 4? If so... why? Like I maybe understand under the thought of not letting the player get too powerful too quickly, but also, this entire premise is kinda based on that possibly happening, (or completely not happening) given it's random what you get. If I want to breed the ultimate human who's a Blessed Birth'ed Swift-Womb'ed Lucky Late Bloomer of Void... why shouldn't I? At the least, I think humans should have a higher cap if you still think there needs to be a cap. (I don't think so, but it's your game). It'd give humans a unique trait and make them more valuable throughout the game instead of being ditched cause they just don't compare in value.

Related to that... can you make Late Bloomers more obvious on how much value they've accrued? I know you can check by clicking on them and seeing how long they've been there, but if you run a Late Bloomer build (like I did), you're gonna be checking a couple dozen people every day. Also I thank you for not putting a negative on Late Bloomers despite the name.


Lastly, just some random things. Beating the competition does nothing. Are skull coins supposed to be a thing? On getting a perfect Specimen, you are not allowed to even see the character made before the event pops to give them over. I'd like to actually be able to see before I make a decision. Even if one option is better than the other. It'd be nice if you could order a specific character at a significantly steeper price. Within reason on what you can obtain. Like maybe you can only order 2 traits and 100 points overall to stats or something like that. Maybe upgrades could get you even more for higher prices. Finally... contracts currently feel weird to me. Because they're so fast, you can't really pivot to fulfilling an order unless you just so happen to have the stock already. Of which there seems to be no, or little guarantee that they'll actually order anything of what you have. You can get *really* screwed on contracts and not being able to fulfill any of them. And the trade contracts for special individuals... I think could use some tweaking to make deals more applicable. Maybe they ask for money on top of the person, but give you something much better. Or maybe maybe it a temporary trade? I don't know. Just an idea.

Hmm... oh. And an undo, revert or buyback option would be nice. It is possible to misclick or not notice something more valuable than you thought until the last moment when you're going over 30 people 100 times.


Sorry for all my chatter, but I hope it shows I care and I hope at least some of this may help. I wish you the best in making and potentially finishing this project. Funny enough, there's still some things I could have said. But I've said enough.

(Even if I wonder if we should address the incest in the room. lol.)

Love the game, but what are the demon coins for? I assume they are different from the money, are they like upgrades? Also can you make late game harder? Im chilling with like 500k after putting 2 hours in and its taking 14k every month please just make the late game harder and not the early game it took me half an hour to get elves 

So is prismatic rare?

Hi! Thanks for the game. I'm reporting an issue I found in case it helps.

Problem: On my Samsung Galaxy Tab A9 (SM-X110, Android 16, 3.8 GB RAM), Contract Breeder v0.1.0 (com.vanabette.contractbreeder) closes on its own about 12 seconds after launching. There is no crash dialog.

Cause (from adb logcat): this is not a crash in the game. Android's low memory killer (lmkd) kills the process because it uses too much RAM:

lmkd: Reclaim 'com.vanabette.contractbreeder' (11605), uid 10265, oom_score_adj 0, state 2 to free 2097896kB rss, 180020kB swap; reason: min watermark is breached even after kill

The game was using about 2 GB of RSS on a 3.8 GB device. Before killing the game, the system had already killed dozens of background apps, and that was not enough.

Other device: the same game works fine on my Samsung Galaxy A56 5G.

 I'm available to run any new test or share the full logcat if you need it. Thanks!

will the steam release be free or paid? if it’s paid i can gift it to my friends in Germany and UK

On Android, it wont let me select females when trying to pair them with males, I can only breed them myself, I'm guessing its a bug?